Muddy Waters

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  Add your Stupid title of Winess books that did not come true

  by Witness 007 in

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  "millions now living will never die.

  " -1922. sorry rutherford but they did!.

  "god's kingdom of 1000 years has aproached!

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  Muddy Waters

  Your Youth -- Getting the Best of It
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  Vomit inducing JW Broadcasting Music Video

  by sieborg in

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  sorry in advance if you have.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay5of0nxm44.

  do not know how to put in a direct link.

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  Geez. Really weird video. And since when do sisters sit on the floor? They show two different sisters sitting on the floor of the Kingdom Hall! One is on the floor doing something with her little kids, and near the end, one sister is sitting on the floor surrounded by garbage bags, clumsily trying to tie them closed. Why is she sitting on the floor???

  And the "thousand mile" stares abound in this video. Creepy too how the sister spent so much time at the meeting staring at the brother....
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  Reasons for NOT Returning

  by Saved_JW in

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  i left the watchtower in the winter of 2008. my first year out was by far the most difficult.

  i had every intention of returning to the watchtower for the very purpose of being able to speak with my friends and family.

  i had already concluded that the teachings were not the "truth" [after reading crisis of conscience] so coming back was more emotional then anything.

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  Excellent observations, love the way you expressed this.
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  What Happens To You When You Die?

  by minimus in

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  are our dead loved ones watching over us at all or are they really just gone now?

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  Muddy Waters

  It would be nice to know...but we don't know.

  "... the spirit goes out..."

  I was with my momma when she recently passed away and after she took her last breath, I sat with her, holding her hand, for over an hour.

  Around 1/2 an half after she died, something "changed" -- There was like a "whoosh", a feeling of a presence leaving, and the room suddenly got darker, colder, emptier...

  I had heard of these types of experiences, but when I was a JW, I always regarded them as "demonic". (Such rubbish!!)

  Now I just don't know .... All there is, is silence. Memories.
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  Evil Bible

  by Simon in

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  2. bible

  hadn't seen this site before, i thought i'd share it:.

  http://www.evilbible.com/.

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  Muddy Waters

  This is great, all of these links! And Village Idiot, bravo!
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  How JW ignore the help Felicity Sneesby got from the "World"

  by StephaneLaliberte in

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  2. beliefs

  lately, in the february broadcast program, at the 46 minutes mark, the watchtower provides the story of felicity sneesby.

  this report focuses on how, despite her serious illness, she, along with her family, has always placed her faith in jehovah and how happy she is for being part of jehovah’s family.. i am shocked by how this jw’s report completely ignores the help that this family has received from this system of things through the years.

  for instance, they slept at the ronald mcdonald house on at least 6 separate occasions and for long periods of time.

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  omg, Smiddy, you nailed it. That is the JW attitude exactly.
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  Someone needs to tell "The Librarian" to stop feeding the apostate trolls.

  by StarTrekAngel in

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  Muddy Waters

  I do not understand the connection between the thread title and this photo.
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  "Sighing and Groaning" is NOT a mark of holiness...!! (Rant!)

  by Muddy Waters in

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  2. beliefs

  all these damn years in that damn cult -- remember how they tell you that jehovah looks upon those "who are sighing and groaning" (at all the terrible things being done.... focusing on all the evils and woes of the world and satan's system) -- and that all this sighing & groaning is some sort of mark of holiness?????.

  every negative news article, every bad bit of something or circumstance - all support and become part of that woeful mindset.

  and we are supposed to keep on being like that, sighing and groaning our lives away to receive some sort of damn mark from an angel's ink horn, to mark us as worthy of life..

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  Peely, thank you for the time, compassion, and thought for your response to me. I do appreciate your words, yet right now I am SO DONE with the bible, with religion, with all of it. If I did have some appreciation left for the bible, I'm sure your words would be comforting.

  Alive, you know, I used to look at those pictures too and feel uncomfortable. For a religious people who are told not to glorify violence and to keep far away from wickedness, etc., those artists sure do a lot of ugly pictures. You look at those expressions of pain, shock, horror, terror, or just plain being dead and staring lifelessly... and you wonder how they could draw these and even show these horrible pictures to all the CHILDREN in the congregation, as part of their "religious" training.

  It is a religion (cult!!) which foments hate, viciousness, cold heartedness, and all other manner of vile, emotionally-distancing effects on the psyche.

  And hello again, Satan! Welcome to the forum. Do you also see these moments of doubt and pain (as you noted when Jesus died)? How is Anton doing..?

  
  
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  Baptised younger

  by Sabin in

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  2. beliefs

  so why do you think the borg is encouraging youngsters to get dunked sooner?

  i reckon it's cause they are easy to victimise.

  i mean, some-one could say, keep our secret, nobody will believe you & god wont love you, but think of the power they would have if they say "you will be disfellowshipped," on top.

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  Yes, it is all about control and the ability to keep their youth enslaved by keeping the DF threat hanging over their heads. They don't even follow their own counsel about being "footstep followers" of Jesus, who was baptized at the age of 30.

  And, Satan! Welcome. Pleased to meetchoo! Are you hoping we guessed your name? I know you are a man of wealth and taste....
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  "Sighing and Groaning" is NOT a mark of holiness...!! (Rant!)

  by Muddy Waters in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  all these damn years in that damn cult -- remember how they tell you that jehovah looks upon those "who are sighing and groaning" (at all the terrible things being done.... focusing on all the evils and woes of the world and satan's system) -- and that all this sighing & groaning is some sort of mark of holiness?????.

  every negative news article, every bad bit of something or circumstance - all support and become part of that woeful mindset.

  and we are supposed to keep on being like that, sighing and groaning our lives away to receive some sort of damn mark from an angel's ink horn, to mark us as worthy of life..

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  Muddy Waters

  Tiki, I know, right?!?! Crazy.